“OMG, They Really Can Withdraw the Offer!” More Evidence Why You Should NOT Negotiate


Nazareth College rescinded a job offer to a woman for an assistant professor position in philosophy back in 2014. At the time, this sent shudders through the higher education and student affairs worlds. At the NASPA conference, it was a dominant topic of conversation among grads and other job seekers.

As a person who has tried to encourage professionals in my field (and especially women) to negotiate job offers (see this blog post: http://buff.ly/1h2dIrA), this seems to have reinforced the belief that negotiating a job offer is a risky thing to do; it would be safer to just accept what you are offered. That’s what most people want to do anyway, so it is nice to have that confirmation. Boo, I say!

First of all, negotiation is not about getting what you want; it is a conversation about value, worth, and potential contribution. This conversation should come from a place of confidence and from recognizing that salary and benefits (formal and otherwise) are social constructions, influenced by institutionalized belief systems and the salary and benefit system that exists within the organization making the offer. Negotiating CAN result in an enhanced package, though not always. Not negotiating NEVER results in an enhanced package.

So, I think there are a few things to consider in this situation before using it as a reason not to negotiate when you receive your job offer.

  1. The reason this story is such a big deal is because of one fact: it is an anomaly!  This is a man-bites-dog story. If it happened all the time, there wouldn’t be a story about it. I would be stunned if we could find two or three more examples of a job offer in student affairs being rescinded due to a person merely countering the original offer. This should NOT be taken as evidence that one should not counter a job offer.
  2. The woman’s counteroffer (including limited course preps, a pre-tenure sabbatical, a later start date to complete a post-doc) created the impression that she was actually looking for a position in a research university, rather than the teaching college Nazareth is. The school in their message back to her basically says exactly that. Should they have rescinded? I would say no, but I understand their rationale. The lesson for other job seekers is: Be careful about countering with requests that indicate you do not know what the job entails or could be interpreted as you really wanting a different job. It isn’t about NOT negotiating; it is about negotiating with awareness.
  3. I am also left to wonder: What if the candidate had been a man? Would they have rescinded the job offer? We’ll never know, but what we know from research on negotiating is that in our current society women are “punished” more for negotiating than men are. It doesn’t matter if the person making the offer is a man or a woman; if the person countering is a woman she is thought less of than a man is. That does not mean women shouldn’t negotiate; it means that they should be aware of this and take steps to mitigate possible negative feelings/reactions of the negotiator (subject of future blog post!)

Dear female colleagues: I ask those of you who have had positive results from negotiating to please share those stories, so that other women can have stories that counter the negative impact of this one highly publicized bad result.

Comments and critiques are most welcome!

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  1. Hi Patrick,

    I hope you are well! After a conversation with you a few years ago I started negotiating my salary offers. Though I didn’t always get what I wanted I got a whole lot closer to my ask than if I had just accepted the first offer. I successfully negotiated several thousand dollars more in salary for two of my most recent jobs. I can also say that since I began negotiating my salary I only heard a couple of no’s. When I said I couldn’t accept they came back with what I needed. I think it is important to encourage women in particular to ask for more. It was uncomfortable at first but I tried to focus on intention…I knew I was asking for a fair salary and most importantly I knew I was worth it–that I would be giving my all to the work and was able to negotiate with honesty, integrity and most importantly with confidence in my worth. Hope this helps.



  2. I’m a woman. I’ve worked in student affairs positions and academic administration. I have tried to negotiate after each job offer, and have never had an employer budge on their initial offer. Though, yes, I agree that it’s unlikely that an offer would be rescinded, I am also frustrated that negotiating seems to do no good, from what I can tell. But I keep trying.

  3. Thanks for sharing this, Patrick. Several excellent points. I’ve negotiated my past three job offers to include the following (depending on the position and institution):
    – Start date
    – Travel expenses to begin transitioning the position
    – Salary (received $3K more for one position)
    – 4 months of temporary housing
    – Additional professional development opportunities
    – Additional vacation time
    – Moving expenses

    It’s critical for student affairs professionals to look beyond salary. Sometimes there are ranges or an amount that is set in place but there are other options that can help enhance quality of life.

  4. Patrick, you are “right on” with this post…I rarely have women negotiate for positions and rarely does a man NOT negotiate. I talk with our graduate students about this constantly. You don’t get what you deserve – you get what you negotiate!

  5. I am a career coach who specializes in int’l ed and I teach a whole workshop on salary negotiation (and compensation). The reality is that women who ask and lead with data (their training/worth, cost of living, etc) get more money frequently, at least based on the feedback from women I have coached. Why don’t they get more otherwise? As you said, they don’t ask. They relate too much with the other side. They’re relationship oriented and don’t want to “mess” with a relationship that is just beginning. They don’t know what to ask for. The list goes on. The reality is that if you lead with data, leave the emotion and fear aside, and realize that you are EXPECTED to negotiate and you are respected for asking for your worth, it is a lot less of a scary conversation for everyone.

    • Melissa, All excellent points. The notion of the threat to an emerging relationship resonates with the student affairs folks I advise and coach, because they have learned the theory that women (especially in early adulthood) tend to focus on community and relationship and men tend to focus on agency (so they are more likely to negotiate for themselves without considering the emergent relationship with the employer). Thanks!

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